good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. it's 5:00. let's get to work. how would dr. king see the current racial situation in america? >> it took guts to do that then. and it's going to take guts to finish the job now. >> it is the collapse of the traditional family that is wreaking havoc in the african-american community. >> i stand here today in this sacred place in my father's footsteps. >> the other issue is racial profile acvoter identification requirements. while somewhat important are essentially a sideshow, a

sideshow. a sideshow. >> stand tall in your community. fight for diversity. understand its strength. >> sideshow. >> you've got to stand up, speak up, speak out. and get in the way! make some noise! >> and i don't think our society will rise to its full maturity until we come to see that the men are made to live together as brothers. >> sideshow. if dr. king were alive today, i believe he would be brokenhearted about what has happened to the traditional famil family. >> good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching "the ed show" right here 5:00 monday through friday. chris matthews is at 7:00. stick around to watch his show.

bill o'reilly makes a lot of money in new york city. he's a guy who is the mayor of cable. he has bu cue ratings, better than anybody else no doubt about it and he has it all wrong. if you will think that racism in america is dead, i'm here to tell you tonight, no. it's very much alive. this has been a very important week for america. this is only tuesday. we've got a big day tomorrow. it's a day of recognition. it's a day of understanding. it's a day for us as a nation to move forward. now, on saturday we celebrated the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. we've made great progress socially when it comes to civil rights over the last 50 years. how many announcers have you heard say unfortunately we have a long way to go? how many cable heads have said we've got a long way to go. okay. i want to hear what the people have to say. i want to hear the people say that we have a long way to go

through their personal experiences about what kind of america they're living in. sitting on sixth avenue in new york city and making the country think that you know all the answers, that ain't going to cut it. so on friday, last friday night, i did a town hall radio meeting in birmingham, alabama, because i wanted to hear what the people have to say it. all started in alabama with dr. king and after speaking to the people of jefferson county, there is no doubt racism is alive and well in the south. and i think it's growing. this is what an alabama public school teacher came to the microphone and said. >> and i have been a part of public education since 1970 when the schools were first integrated. i see more hatred in the south now than i ever saw in 1970, and i tell you why. it's being preached in the pulpits. it's in the white churches. they are teaching people that if

you vote anything but republican, you're going to hell pretty much. >> oh. mr. o'reilly, couldn't you have used that sound bite? well, no, you know a heck of a lot more. it's all stereotyping, isn't it? they are preparing it and people are buying it. one alabama state legislator told me a chilling story about a recent attempt to segregate a local school. >> i got a call this weeking from white female republican. we have a school district in our county that has made application to become independent. the reason she called me was because in her church this past sunday, they were bullied and told you've got to support thrt school district pulling away from the county so we can minimize the number of blacks that's in our school district.

and she was even though she was republican, she was disheartened because she said she never looked at the party from that perspective. >> now, that was an elected official in the state of alabama. talking about a story that she came up with that what she comes across in everyday life. i have to tell you, i'm a positive guy but i'm also a realist. i'm not going to run away from the facts. these folks in alabama were the civil rights movement all started still feel like they are being angsted by the american system. i got to say it. i have to. i'm obligated to say it because that's what i heard. there's an undercurrent of anger out there that there is this is conservative separatist movement that is taking grip in america to separate. we're not as equal as we think we are. and when we start going into the educational system and start splitting up resources and shortchanging certain districts and stories like that, what that woman just talked about, what

kind of america are we living in? yes, we have a i long way to go, don't we? it is sad, it is shocking that stories such as that exist 60 years after brown versus the board of education was decided. now, a central theme of this radio town hall last friday night in birmingham, alabama, was i asked the question about people voting against their own self-interests. if you look at it, the progressive agenda in this country is all about workers. it's all about security. it's all about equal rights, civil rights, women's rights, social justice, all of the things that we just didn't find in the south in our history. this is what the progressive movement is all about. one man told me the republican misinformation machine is just too much to handle. why is it that people vote against their own best interests? i'd like to know. >> i think one of the reasons why is because many people in

the people i know personally got jobs. and many of them don't want to rock the boat. and many of them have told me keep your mouth shut. because you might get terminated or you might get a backlash. >> you're talking about workplace intimidation. >> yes. the problem now is that too many people have misinformation but they don't want to accept the facts. and sometimes the misinformation takes over the facts. >> now, where in the world would they be getting all this misinformation? would it be right wing radio that permeates all throughout the south where you can't find liberal talk radio or anything else that would compare to the spewing of hate that comes out across those states in the why is it that the republican party has such a grip on the south?

that was one of the questions i asked. what is it about republican policy when it comes to cutting education, denying health care, going after pensions, shipping jobs overseas, what is it that the south doesn't get about american workers? meanwhile, education cuts, republican misinformation, and voting against your own self-interests just the tip of the iceberg. the right to vote is now under attack by republicans all across this nation, well documented on this network. this year alone, at least 82 restrictive voting bills were introduced in 31 states, the south is trying to spread, my friends. republicans have realized that their policies simply do not speak to americans so they're trying to rig the system. very clear. we've seen it all. radical voter i.d. laws. cuts to early voting hours, gerrymanderi gerrymandering, restricting, changes to registration when it comes to same day registration. make no mistake. make no mistake that this is

racist. make no mistake that these restrictive laws mostly impact poor and african-american voters, he very people you just saw stand up and tell those real life stories about what's happening in their backyard. good old alabama, man stood up and said ed, welcome labackwards. shocking stories of racist behavior not just in the south. it's popping up all over the place. last month, a group of 25 young african-americans were at a wild wings cafe in charleston, south carolina. the man allegedly told a group of kids in there a white customer felt threatened. so they had to leave. the group was outraged and one of them spoke up to a local news station about what actually happened. >> she said well, there's a situation where one of our customers feels threatened by your party. so she asked us not to the sit you in our section. which totally alarmed all of us

because we're sitting there peacefully for two hours. i said so you're telling me i have a right to leave. >> she said i have a right to deny you service. >> you're upset because he was recording you after we've waited for two hours and after she discriminated on us and she answered yes. >> that's america. the wild wings cafe. they apologized to the group and wanted to make it right. so they offered them all a free meal. a little too late, isn't it the? it's important to keep in mind this incident i guess you could say is rand paul's america. some republicans think it's their god given right to discrimination and they're dangerously thinking is starting to spread across america. it's moving america backwards. let's go to the prairie. that's right. good old north dakota. this dangerous thinking is being taken to a whole new level. the town of leaf, north dakota, has a population of 19 people. it's just perfect for what these folks want to do. and it sits in one of the least

densely populated counties in the entire country. grant county. now, the town is surrounded by beautiful rolling hills and wheat fields, great agriculture. and cattle and all that kind of stuff. you know, it's got the local bar. it's got some run down homes and buildings and what not. it's perfect for this guy. 61-year-old craig paul cobb wants to set up a racist utopia, cobb has been called one of the most extreme white supremacist anderson neo-nazis in the country. what's the guy doing? he's buying a bunch of real estate in the area. and he wants people to move in. he plans to fill the town with other racists that basically want to take over the community. it's the conservative separatist movement in america. a blog post cobb wrote this, residents in his town must fly a racist banner like a nazi flag 24 hours a day. the delusional racist plans to rename the city cobbsville. this guy's dangerous. in the 19 residents of this

small town are scared. the mayor's phone is ringing off the hook and the local sheriff says i'm keeping an eye on it. we took it further. we asked account republican north dakota governor jack del rimpal for a comment on the issue. called his office five times today. so far have not received a response. i think it says a lot about a man who refuses to condemn a planned racist community in his own state. but you know what? if we don't talk like this and bring out these instances, how are we going to move society forward? if we're afraid to address them, how do we move forward? yes, it has rapted up quite a bit since president obama took the oath of office, hasn't it? he's a socialist, a communist, he's a marxist, we've heard it all. low information voters are buying this stuff. what's really bad about it all as we go into year six of president obama, now this white consecutive movement is starting to infiltrate into the legislative process in america

and we sit here silent about it? i will not. this is dangerous for the country. and it needs to be directly addressed. governor dalrimble, own up, dude. do you want this stuff in your backyard in leaf, north dakota? is that the north dakota way? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. will conservatives have the character to condemn racism in america. text to 67622. go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. for more, let's turn to hillary shelten of the naacp and ohio state senator nina turner. >> mr. shelton, it has been 50 years since the march on washington. we all want to feel like we're moving forward. but when stories like this prop up, when i go to alabama and hear these comments, i think, yeah, we've got a long way to go. but these folks in many ways are

still living it. >> what's the solution, mr. shelton? >> we have to continue to expose people to the realities of how did i verse our society is. we have to make sure that our laws are in force. we have anti-discrimination laws. when you think about the man that wants to set up a compound and begin renting or selling houses to people who are white and believe in his racist philosophies, that's housing discrimination. we have to talk about how ridiculous it is that is some people still hold on to white supremacist mind-sets in the midst of a country becoming ever more diverse. we have to share that information, continue to educate our children how troubling and dangerous and even at times deadly these particular perspectives are. >> we've got different pocks in this country. it seems like we have good diversity on the east and west coast. there's the south and then there's the pistol of the country where the misinformation highway just flows. nina turner, after seeing those examples can of racism, what can

we do to move america forward? >> well, again, ed, it begins with the conversations we have to have with our neighbors. you know, when you have people that paint one group as the other, i mean, just even hearing some of the things you're talking about, i'm glad your hair is on fire about this because we can't tolerate there kind of behavior in the great nation that we live in. we have got to communicate with one another and get to know one another better and understand that there are still inequities in the 21st superintendent. as hard as that may be for some people to believe, everybody does not run the race at the same pace. everybody didn't start off with the same opportunities. as the greatest country on the pace of the earth, we have an obligation to the people of this country to make things right. african-americans are not deletional about racism and discrimination. our latino brothers and sisters are not delusional. these things are happening. we have to admit we have made

progress but also admit we have a mighty long way to go. >> going down and talking to the people and listening to their life experiences is what i think we have to do as a country and address their issues. i want to play a clip now of bill o'reilly's criticizing saturday's march on washington. here it is. >> on saturday, tens of thousands of folks gathered in washington to honor dr. king's crusade but sadly, sadly is, most of the speeches were heavy on grievance, light on problem solving. >> mr. shelton, that's your response to that? >> he truly misses the point. if you sat through and listened to the speeches, you heard a couple things going. one is that analysis of where we've come from, the things that we've been able to achieve, the challenges that are still before us and wa we must do to solve those problems, if mr. o'reilly missed the solution portion of it, he clearly wasn't listening to what was being done on the mall last sated. >> nina, do you think america

has become moraysist after obama was elected. >>? >> we certainly see signs of that. >> it's in the legislative process. what we're seeing is more restrictive legislation being pushed forward on women's rights, on voting rights, i mean, this stuff isn't being pushed by democrats. this is being pushed by the anti-s who can't stand the president. >> your point about voting for your self-interests that all working class people, regardless of their ethnicity need to have people elected to office that care about them, absolutely. so elections have consequences and we have got to come together and make sure we elect people who care about workers, characters about women and children and care about america. we are better together. >> hillary shelton and ohio state senator nina turner, great to have you with us tonight. ted cruzs is spreading his anti-obama care message across country. we'll look at whether he's leaving a mark on the american people. don't forget to check out "hardball" with chris matthews

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>> joining me now is contributor dr. zeke emmanuel, advice provost for global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania. doctor, good to have you with us tonight. >> nice to be here. >> is it true that americans are losing their jobs because of obama care? >> no. most economic analyses, certainly when you look over time and not just minute to minute which is affected by many.fluctuations in the economy, actually with obama care controlling health care costs, there will actually be a creation of jobs and actually more money in the pocket of most americans. so it's counter -- it's not related to the facts but that isn't what's at stake here. most of the toned up rhetoric is afraid that once obama care starts and people like what they have, it will become a permanent fixture like medicare and that

scares i think many people who have opposed it. because they will find that americans consider it a good thing and give credit to president obama for it. >> well, i don't think there's any question about that. fast forward one year from today. what are the stories going to be like? what's the societal talk going to be about obama care and it's going to be very hard for the republicans to go home and say, well, i was against it but i know you like it. that's not a good place to be. what are people missing about obama care? is it the sell job? go ahead. >> i think part of it is, there's just a lot of uncertainty. was the exchange going to look like. is it going to be easy to shop. is it going to cost me? we don't know and uncertainty always causes anxiety. i think one year from now, we'll have been through a whole cycle of the exchanges, people will see what they can get on the exchanges. and we'll be in a very, very different place. we'll know exactly how many americans have signed up in the

exchanges. is it the 7 million the congressional budget office predicts or is it more as many states are predicting? so i think uncertainty breeds anxiety and fear. i think a year down the line, we're not going to have that kind of uncertainty. we're going to see much better what this has to offer. again, i think in the long-term for many people, it's this unbelievable safety net. remember, if you have a disease or a relative has a disease, this ensures that no matter what happens, whether you lose your job or whether something else happens, you have health insurance. >> that trumps everything. >> anything negative thrown out by the conservatives and anti-s, what you just said trumps reggie. the pre-existing condition is a game-changer. it is a lifesaver for many, many americans. what about the employer mandate? you were very involved in putting this law together. your thoughts. why did they delay this? is it just a matter of getting

it right and taking your time? >> well, the law as written is not the easiest to apply and get regulations for. there were better alternatives. why they were taken i think is less than in the history books. the fact is, this provision whether 30 hours as a full-time employee is hard to enforce when you come down to people who work seasonally or episodically. for me the profess sorate, people who teach one semester but not another, are they full-time employees. that's why they've delayed. they've let it be known to employers it's a one-year delay. it's not going to last forever. i think that's going to require them to step up to the plate. >> here's what i think is going to happen. this is what i think the conservatives are scared about from an industry standpoint. you could make the case in the insurance industry that geico has changed the game. they've changed the rules the way they've marketed. they've changed the rules in the way they charge. he had are cheaper than others.

they are afraid that the industry is going to get like that and they're not going to be able to stop it because will shop around in the exchanges and have better opportunities and they're going to have lower rates. we're already seeing it in new york and california. we're going to see it in every state that has an exchange. do you agree that this could happen in health care as it's happened in general insurance? >> almost all of the experts in health policy who have been pushing and advocating for the exchange agree that a critical element of the exchanges is to put downward price pressure on insurance companies and for insurance companies there ever to put downward price pressure on hospitals and doctors. that is very important. we know that you know, when you get insurance from your employer, you're not the real purchaser. the hr department of a big corporation is the real purchaser. >> exactly. >> they don't have -- they're not as sensitive to the price. whereas in the exchanges there will be a lot of price pressure to bring rates down and we are, as you point out, already seeing

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i think we in the media have a responsibility to tone things down when it gets hot. if you know what i mean. no, i don't think there's going to be a race war in america. and i don't think there are some when you say some on the right, i mean, three, four, ten, thousands, whatever? i'm trying to answer this as directly as i can. i don't think there's going to be a race war in america nor would i ever advocate that. but i think that conservatives will do just about anything to concentrate the wealth and to control the government. that's what we're seeing. these are the kinds of things we're seeing and the trends we're seeing when it comes to legislation being introduced to take people's rights away. our next question is from ray. ray says do you ever see the day that a lie detectors will be used on the sunday news talk shows you? mean you think they lie on sunday? come on. they all tell the truth, especially about obama care. no, but i'll tell you what, it would be a great promotion to

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yet, this chamber is for the most part ominously ominously dreadfully silent. you can hear a pin drop. listen. you can hear a pin drop. there is no debate. there's no discussion. there's no attempt to lay out for the nation the pros and cons of this particular war. there's nothing. >> lay out for the nation the pros and cons. welcome back told show". that was the late senator robert byrd from west virginia speaking on the eve of the iraq war backing in 2003. ten years later, we find ourselves in a similar position as president obama decides how to respond to reported

widespread chemical attacks in sir annia. secretary of state john kerry issue aid statement saying is the administration was consulting with allies and members of congress. according to officials, the u.s. military strike could launch as early as thursday. britain's prime minister david cameron has recalled parliament from their summer vacation to vote on whether britain should take part in military action. in the meantime, the united states congress remains in recess. they're not scheduled to be in session until september 9th. house speaker john boehner has had preliminary communication with the white house but according to a spokesman, boehner "has made it clear that before any action is taken there must it be meaningful consultation with members of congress." joining me now in our rapid response panel, msnbc. and nissan medal of honor colonel jake jacobs and robert green wall, founder of brave new films. thasks for joinings us tonight. there is a lot town pack, colonel, no question about it.

what had be the criteria of a strike? how much latitude is the president going to have without going to congress. >> he's got enormous latitude as long as he doesn't put people on the ground, i think the congress will probably let him do whatever he wants. the congress can always stop everything by because they control -- congress controls the purse strings but they're a out of session, b, ominously silent and c, there's been a lot of pressure on the president from the other end of pennsylvania avenue to actually act in this case. so i don't think you're going to hear anything from congress. >> how tough would a surgical strike be? >> do we have immense capability? is i mean the russians are very close to the syrians. is this going to be american technology versus russian technology? >> i think you'll see that. you and i were talking earlier about the fact there's a good possibility that the syrians had the latest in russian technology and that there will be the battle of the technologies. in terms of what we can do, and

what we do, those are two different things. we have the capability to do enormous damage to the syrians but we're not going to do very much. it is going to be a message because we've been -- we backed ourselves into a corner by saying we will strike and now we have to strike. but i think it's by and large, it's going to be just a message and nothing will probably attack airfields. make it extremely difficult for the syrian air force to ever get up again. and we will attack launch platforms like missile platforms and so on. many of which are mobile. but attacking troop formations, troops on the ground and so on, we're unlikely to do. >> robert green wald it doesn't sound like if, it sounds like when. recent polling shows the american people aren't too fired up about all of this. 42% of americans prefer to provide only humanitarian assistance. how does this play in your opinion with the american people and what would be the aftermath

of a strike? >> talking about the american people, i want to say for myself and so many people on, i've gotten e-mails and facebooks and tweets, all people dancing in the streets and happy you're back on the air nightly. >> thank you. i appreciate that. >> good to have you asking these questions. look, the opinion polls are very clear in terms of what the american people want. unfortunately, tragically, sadly, we see a small group of people in washington making decisions without consulting congress, without consulting account american people. and it's very hard to fathom how this ends. we know it's easy to get into a war. we know the wrong people always wind up getting killed. how do you get out? and how does a bombing save one life of one syrian? i do he phi anyone to explain that to us. >> well, do you think there should be a response to the syrians now that we have evidence that they have used chemical weapons on civilians?

>> absolutely. the chemical weapons are beyond horrific. all of. you can't look at those pictures without being deeply affected. the response must be aggressive forcing and bringing together the different parties so there's a cease-fire. that's the only way it's going to end. both the sides notice syrian conflict are getting money and they're getting military support from outsiders. the syrian government and the rebels. that needs to be stopped. and the only possible way will be bringing people for a cease-fire. it's never ever going to end by more strikes, more bombing and more killing >> colonel, the response to the response, what kind of capability does syria have? >> well, they have great regional and local capability. and you can bet one of the reasons we haven't launched anything yet is because among other people, we're talking to the israelis because the israelis and we assume that any attack on syria is liable to

engender a response on israel from syria. and don't forget you've got iraq -- iran in the mix, as well. it's very, very dangerous. you mentioned the russians, too. it's worth bringing this up again. the syrians on the ground are not manning all this stuff by themselves. the russians are on the ground. they have advisors both military and civilian advisors on grounds. and you can bet that collateral damage is liable to be the killing of russian citizens in syria and one of the things that's keeping us from launching anything right away and has been for a long time is the russians involved. they don't want us to get involved, the russians don't for a wide variety of reasons. it's is the russian presence on the ground in syria ought to give us pause. >> robert green wald, quickly, what if president obama does nothing? what if we just -- watch this unfold and the united states does nothing? >> i think the thing we should

be doing is pushing hard for a peace conference. the head of the joint chiefs of staff talked about look, military can tip the military balance. but it can't deal with the fundal problems here which are religious, ethnic, tribal, long-term civil war that's going on. and we can use our resources, we can bring pressure to bear on our allies and the people who are opposing so that there's some kind of an effort to end the war and the only way that's going to happen, ed, it sounds simple but it's very complicated, it's very hard is with bringing the parties together and ending the conflict. >> colonel, we've got two carrier groups in the area and we've got air strike capability in turkey. would that be enough? >> yes, it depends on what your objective is. i think our objective is limited. if we were to launch an attack it would be merely to send a message to assad and to fulfill the promise that the president i think in mistake when he said

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punching in, punching out. welcome back to "the ed show." this is a story for the folks who take a shower after work, the folks of america. about to get supersized. fast food employees want a living wage of $15 an hour. the current federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. yesterday on this very program, senator barbara boxerer called for the minimum wage to be raised to 10 bucks an hour. >> we need to raise the minimum wage. that will make a huge difference out there. people are struggling. the difference between the very wealthy and the working poor has grown. we raise that minimum wage, and

we move forward with the vision of this president that we have. >> fast food restaurant workers are also fighting for their right to unionize without intimidation. in 1963, just a short time before the historic i have a dream speech, martin luther king said on this on "meet the press." >> i think that it is necessary for the nation to rise up and engage in a massive economic program on the state of alabama. >> he was talking about a general strike. in just two days thousands of fast food workers in as many as 50 cities will rise up and engage in a massive economic withdrawal program by taking part in a one-day strike in many of those picketers are backed by the service employees international union. mary kay henry, sciu president joins me now. great to have you with living,

to pay rent, put food on the table, and expect that your children are going to do better than you do. and that promise has been broken. and these fast food workers are standing up for themselves and all of us. >> what are your expectations? how widespread is this going to be across the country? >> it was new york only in november. chicago followed in december. and then nine more cities joined them this spring. so now that it's to 50 in august, i have yet to see where it will go. but i think it's so inspiring that that's why our members and community groups and faith leaders wanted to join these workers and support their very reasonable demand that the profits they helped create for the big three multinationals in this country get reinvested in the work they do every day. >> you know, the numbers are pretty interesting. more than 42% of restaurant and fast food employees are over the age of 25 and have at least some college education. 753,000 have a bachelor's degree

or higher. so we're not talking about teenagers after school work here. we're talking about people -- >> not anymore. >> so this industry has changed. >> yes. >> do you think the mcdonald's of the world and the burger kings are going to say okay, we've got to pay more? >> i think that the workers joining together and with us supporting them are going to be able to make a very legitimate case, that we have to change the direction of this low-wage economy. and it begins with fast food, but it should expand to retail. it should include walmart. every low wage worker who works for a living should not be living in poverty in this country any longer. and thank god for the fast food workers standing up and making this case. >> why haven't unions organized labor been able to penetrate walmart? >> i think because this company is incredibly resistant. but the walmart workers have also been incredibly resillient.

that story is being rewritten as well. >> that story being rewritten. do you mean some day you'll have walmart workers unionized? >> yes, difficult. >> how soon? >> i don't know, ed. i think when you look at the history of workers coming together, we had immigrant janitors in the '20s. it took them ten years to establish our union. we had home care workers in california. it took them seven years to establish their living wage. security officers all across this nation are joining together. they're winning living wages. hotel workers are doing it. auto parts workers. i think it's incredibly possible when people come together to make changes that you can't imagine possible today. >> now a moment ago, we drew the parallel between what dr. king was talking about back in the '60s when he talked about a general strike. >> yes. >> do you think that will be effective, that consumers, i mean, back then dr. king was saying don't buy anything from alabama. he was talking about economic

boycott of the state of alabama. how far will this go? >> i think it will be effective if all of us take responsibility for supporting these workers, and understand they're not just standing up for themselves. they're standing up for all of us. government needs to do its part by raising the minimum wage. workers need to be supported by all of us. and employers need to come to the table and reinvest in american workers again. >> mary kay henry, service employees international union, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. that is "the ed show." "politicsnation" is next followed by "hardball" with chris matthews at its new time associate 7:00 eastern. we'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 eastern. thanks to you for tuning in. coming to you from washington, d.c. tonight's lead, heartless gop conservatives are reaching deep into their bag of insults to attack americans who are hurting. and to justify what has

increasingly become a republican party hostile to those in need. on fox news, bill o'reilly can't wait to give you his expertise on poor people. >> most of the poor are in that circumstance because of poor personal decision making. this country offers great opportunity to everybody, but you must work hard to seize it.